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A look at the two-deep depth chart
DEFENSE
DE 10 Victor Egu So. 6-4, 247
47 John Herubin Fr. 6-3, 248
NG 96 Copache Tyler So. 6-3, 288
54 Carl Kreitzberg Jr. 6-2, 293
DT 91 Nick Crowle Fr. 6-3, 271
77 Mikhail Reece Jr. 6-5, 277
DE 99 Marty Moesta So. 6-6, 254
53 Jeff Schmittgens Sr. 6-3, 241
B 44 Matthew Oplinger Fr. 6-3, 229
38 Darius Manora So. 6-0, 235
M 49 Andrew Larkin Jr. 6-2, 231
42 Will Vaughan Sr. 6-1, 235
S 22 Charles Cook Sr. 6-3, 220
46 Jaeden Graham Fr. 6-4, 219
CB 17 Spencer Rymiszewski So. 5-11, 182
14 Will Bryan Fr. 6-0, 173
CB 1 Dale Harris So. 5-10, 185
19 Jason Alessi Fr. 6-0, 180
SS 34 Robert Ries So. 5-10, 192
5 Cole Champion Jr. 5-11, 191
FS 23 Foyesade Oluokun So. 6-2, 219
26 Hayden Carlson Fr. 5-11, 193
OFFENSE
WR 29 Grant Wallace Sr. 5-11, 195
9 Michael Siragusa Fr. 6-3, 241
WR 2 Deon Randall Sr. 5-8, 195
82 Myles Gaines So. 5-11, 184
WR 83 Robert Clemons So. 5-11, 185
6 Austin Reuland Jr. 5-8, 201
TE 88 Stephen Buric Jr. 6-5, 237
4 Sebastian Little Jr. 6-1, 227
LT 65 Khalid Cannon So. 6-6, 276
71 Beau Iverson So. 6-9, 281
RG 75 Mason Friedline So. 6-4, 295
61 Jon Bezney Fr. 6-5, 287
C 50 Luke Longinotti Jr. 6-4, 280
72 Dustin Ross Jr. 6-4, 259
LG 67 Will Chism Sr. 6-3, 302
62 Derrek Ross Jr. 6-3, 259
RT 70 Ben Carbery Sr. 6-5, 300
78 Ben Killion Jr. 6-5, 290
QB 19 Morgan Roberts Jr. 6-3, 200
14 Logan Scott Jr. 6-1, 195
RB 30 Tyler Varga Sr. 5-11, 224
24 Kahlil Keys Sr. 5-11, 213
SPECIAL TEAMS
PK 37 Kyle Cazzetta Sr. 6-0, 210
42 Parker Toms Sr. 5-11, 201
H 33 Nick LaTesta Sr. 5-8, 174
14 Logan Scott Jr. 6-1, 195
LS 11 Spencer McManes So. 6-3, 218
99 Marty Moesta So. 6-6, 254
P 37 Kyle Cazzetta Sr. 6-0, 210
43 Bryan Holmes So. 6-0, 197
PR 2 Deon Randall Sr. 5-8, 195
12 Jamal Locke Fr. 5-11, 186
KOR 20 Jake Dehart Fr. 5-8, 166
83 Robert Clemons III So. 5-11, 185
DE 10 Victor Egu So. 6-4, 247
47 John Herubin Fr. 6-3, 248
NG 96 Copache Tyler So. 6-3, 288
54 Carl Kreitzberg Jr. 6-2, 293
DT 91 Nick Crowle Fr. 6-3, 271
77 Mikhail Reece Jr. 6-5, 277
DE 99 Marty Moesta So. 6-6, 254
53 Jeff Schmittgens Sr. 6-3, 241
B 44 Matthew Oplinger Fr. 6-3, 229
38 Darius Manora So. 6-0, 235
M 49 Andrew Larkin Jr. 6-2, 231
42 Will Vaughan Sr. 6-1, 235
S 22 Charles Cook Sr. 6-3, 220
46 Jaeden Graham Fr. 6-4, 219
CB 17 Spencer Rymiszewski So. 5-11, 182
14 Will Bryan Fr. 6-0, 173
CB 1 Dale Harris So. 5-10, 185
19 Jason Alessi Fr. 6-0, 180
SS 34 Robert Ries So. 5-10, 192
5 Cole Champion Jr. 5-11, 191
FS 23 Foyesade Oluokun So. 6-2, 219
26 Hayden Carlson Fr. 5-11, 193
OFFENSE
WR 29 Grant Wallace Sr. 5-11, 195
9 Michael Siragusa Fr. 6-3, 241
WR 2 Deon Randall Sr. 5-8, 195
82 Myles Gaines So. 5-11, 184
WR 83 Robert Clemons So. 5-11, 185
6 Austin Reuland Jr. 5-8, 201
TE 88 Stephen Buric Jr. 6-5, 237
4 Sebastian Little Jr. 6-1, 227
LT 65 Khalid Cannon So. 6-6, 276
71 Beau Iverson So. 6-9, 281
RG 75 Mason Friedline So. 6-4, 295
61 Jon Bezney Fr. 6-5, 287
C 50 Luke Longinotti Jr. 6-4, 280
72 Dustin Ross Jr. 6-4, 259
LG 67 Will Chism Sr. 6-3, 302
62 Derrek Ross Jr. 6-3, 259
RT 70 Ben Carbery Sr. 6-5, 300
78 Ben Killion Jr. 6-5, 290
QB 19 Morgan Roberts Jr. 6-3, 200
14 Logan Scott Jr. 6-1, 195
RB 30 Tyler Varga Sr. 5-11, 224
24 Kahlil Keys Sr. 5-11, 213
SPECIAL TEAMS
PK 37 Kyle Cazzetta Sr. 6-0, 210
42 Parker Toms Sr. 5-11, 201
H 33 Nick LaTesta Sr. 5-8, 174
14 Logan Scott Jr. 6-1, 195
LS 11 Spencer McManes So. 6-3, 218
99 Marty Moesta So. 6-6, 254
P 37 Kyle Cazzetta Sr. 6-0, 210
43 Bryan Holmes So. 6-0, 197
PR 2 Deon Randall Sr. 5-8, 195
12 Jamal Locke Fr. 5-11, 186
KOR 20 Jake Dehart Fr. 5-8, 166
83 Robert Clemons III So. 5-11, 185
posted by Anonymous at
10:37 PM
63 Comments:
Yale is going to struggle stopping anyone on defense. Some political moves from Reno across the board. He knows they won't stop anyone so his plan is play freshman and claim they will be good in the future.
If Reno really means that Champion and Vaughn are second team (leading tacklers on the team, All Ivy at some level) are 2nd team, then he is promising a crushing defeat of Lehigh (and teams beyond). I am a BIG supporter, but this seems risky, at best.
No champion is a bad move. Just a bad move.
Champion got burned a lot over the last 2 years. Let's see what happens. I'm not a Reno fan, but think this could be a good move. On the other hand, I'm not sure I agree wit h Vaughn. Vaughn was critical last year.
Tough to build team chemistry when you insert freshman into starting roles after 3 weeks of practice.
Vaughn and Champion are both good kids and excellent players. But Vaughn was in the middle last November 23rd, and I'm sure Reno can't get that first half nightmare out of his mind. Also a good point about Champion getting burned. It was a problem for the entire secondary last year, as good as they were in other aspects. Let's hope that it was a function of youth!
what did freshman do to earn jobs? Reno still doesnt get it. Champion and Vaughn might quit the team.
So, I count only 5 seniors starting on offense and 1 on defense. 3 juniors on offense and none on defense. This is consistent with last year. The juniors and seniors left on the team will be watching games from the sidelines like us. That is sad. I guess it is all about winning some point down the road, which is not a guaranty at the risk of not giving the upper classman an opportunity to play out their careers as Yale football players. I really feel for the parents of the upperclassman. This is not what they thought Yale football would be all about. If your kids have equal or slightly better talent than an underclassman - they will lose out and sit on the bench to end their careers. Reno doesn't have a clue how this impacts the kids he asks each day to support the program and bust their butts for Yale. If he is trying to divide the locker room, this is a good way to do it. I really hope Yale has a great season on the field since it is the only way the upperclass can swallow what lies ahead.
Obviously the best players at this point are playing. To say Coach Reno is not playing the best players and not trying to win is ridiculous.
There is a difference between playing your best players and playing to win the future. I think Reno is playing to win in the future believing that by providing the freshman and sophmores with playing time now, they will be better as juniors and seniors. The plan should work but the upperclassman are sacraficed in order for this to happen. Fundamentally, I disagree that freshman should get the nod over upperclassman all things being equal. Freshman must adjust to the college game and its complexity as well as the academics at Yale. Their bodies also need to adjust - size and strength is gained after a year in the program is key.
I am generally a Reno supporter but I have said it numerous times on this board that you CANNOT win in this league with such a large number of freshmen in the two deep, especially not to open the season.
This has actually been one of the most disappointing aspects of Reno's tenure so far. How do you build any type of continuity with so many freshmen in the two deep YEAR AFTER YEAR? What does this say about your older players? Believe me, this does impact team morale in a negative way. If anything Reno should split their time in the first game, with results ON THE FIELD dictating who gets the starting nod going forward. To insert so many freshmen into starting roles before ever having played in a varsity game is not a good idea. Isn't it a failure of coaching when your freshmen starters from last year (Manora, Champion) were in your eyes so good that they had to start as freshmen but can't start as sops?
Again, if you just look at the past several years the best teams (at Yale and elsewhere in the league) do not have very many freshmen playing. The '06 championship team and '07 9-1 team had at most 2-3 freshmen in the two deep with maybe 1 starting. I don't see Harvard or Princeton's roster littered with freshmen starters.
I don't care how good these guys were in high school. I'm sure some of them (not all) will be nice players for Yale in the future but Reno's track record is not good. Just look at the players who were SO GOOD as freshmen that they HAD to start yet were not good enough to play consistently past their freshmen season (Williams, Manora, Buric, etc.) It takes time to develop as a college football player, and sometimes I think Reno's strategy does a lot more harm than good.
Again, I generally have supported Reno, but at some point I believe he needs to pick a develop a core that can lead to a better product on the field. Right now, I am resigned to seeing numerous costly mistakes as we watch these young guys develop on game day when the kinks should be worked out at practice or on the JV field.
Not feeling so positive about this season anymore- Former Alum
At the risk of sounding like a Pollyanna, I believe that our coaches are trying to win now, that they may know their material better than all but a few of us, and that they realize that playing favorites would be divisive and counterproductive.
That said, how about this as a simple (simple-minded?) way of determining whether our team is young, adolescent, or old relative to others. Assign a number to each of the 44 players (I've omitted specialists) starting with 1 for freshman and proceeding with relentless logic to 4 for seniors. In our case the total is 110, which divided by 44 gives you 2.50 (which is halfway between a sophomore and a junior. The numbers for offense and defense are 2.86 and a 2.14, respectively. Does this prove anything? Darned if I know, but it might be interesting to see what are opponents' numbers are.
L et V
Actually, Champion has been a starter for 2 years, and 2nd team All Ivy last year. What has happened to his ability since then?
Wholeheartedly agree with you 11:23. Anyone who knows anything about football and coaching can see what has gone on for the last 3 years. With the exception of a few players on every team, the talent pool for the Ivy League is all the same. 20 underclassman in the 2 deep? Is Yale's younger talent that much better than other Ivy's? The upperclassmen, seniors in particular, have been disrespected for the last 3 years. They have worked just as hard, if not harder to prove their worth. They have willingly done everything asked of them all the time knowing they would probably get passed over. They have sacrificed their bodies and their time but it just doesn't matter. Fortunately they are all very intelligent individuals and will use their Yale football career as a springboard to a successful business career. If anything they have learned how not to manage an organization. As storied a program as Yale football has been, it has lost its luster. Hopefully they can win a championship in the next year or two and it will have been worth it at the expense of countless committed athletes that play for the love of the game. Football is all about learning life lessons, both good and bad. It is sad that most of the lessons being taught in this program are bad ones. This is not what anyone thought Yale football would be about.
I have attended many practices so far. I watched the offensive and the defensive players. It is my opinion that the players selected for the depth charts are the best at this time. This is certainly after watching the scrimmage in the Bowl last Friday.
However, if they falter, then it is very likely that changes will be made. BTW, I would be most interested to ascertain what players should have been on the depth chart in lieu of those chosen.
yale is not recruiting better players then the other schools. Reno just hypes them up, gloats about the phony FBS offers they didn't get and trots them out as Freshman. Its all an illusion.
I also have attended the several practices and watched the Brown scrimmage.I agree with Ray and would also like to know who was left off the two deep chart. Many of the players listed as second will be playing a significant amount of time.
Stop all the bedwetting.
Reno's job is to win football games. He may be a bit slower than some of you experts but he's not stupid. If a Freshman hopeful disappoints, he will be pulled. Reno has to improve on a 5- 5 record this year or beat Harvard or both, or he will be looking for a job.
This 2 deep chart we read today won't last a full quarter if a player is not getting it done. Don't panic. We are not chartering a plane and flying to China with 44 players.
Let me reassure you Chicken Littles that the D Line, the receiver corps, the running backs and even some of the LB's and DB combination change frequently throughout the game depending on down and distance.
One would think at the start of the season we'd have a small bit of cheerleading, and failing that, a refreshing critique with new insights. But looks like it's the same old lynch mob.
Anonymous 9:56.. Don't usually weigh in but your information concerning 11/23 is totally incorrect. Harvard went trips (3 receivers) to field side so that Vaughan (Mike LB) would have to shift and cover inside slot receiver on field (wide side) - they ran 3 screens back to the boundary side for TDs (short side of field) to isolate Larkin who was on that side.. He got massacred.. they even drew it up on teleprompter on NBC Sports to show how he could't get off block.. Murphy's whole game plan.. which was genius was to run away from Vaughan and strong side. I question anyone who thinks benching Cole and Vaughan (the two leading tacklers returning in the entire IVY League) and the leaders all last year of the secondary and Linebackers is a wise move.. I don't see it.
Ivy league highlights show it was Vaughn who missed the tackles or was blown out on the three Harvard tds. Champion did blow many coverages last year and does not overall move to the ball well. In any event both Vaughn and Champion will be playing a significant amount this Saturday.
Look at the College Sports Madness All Ivy Preseason Football Team for 2014. Champion and Vaughan are 1st defensive team preseason picks. So, I guess that they have tackled and covered well-enough. But, they can't be starters for Yale? We must be loaded!
Champion is a victim of a coach who actually knows what he is doing and looks past the stats. The first thing I would say when I see a safety making so many tackles is "why is my safety making all the tackles"? This is an even bigger question when you give up massive yardage both on the ground and in the air game in and game out. I will let you experts answer this one!
You people make me laugh,It's a 10 game season that has'nt started yet.Ist string 2nd string for that matter 3rd.Kids are going to play,they won't be riding the pine
they're gonna be fresher and stronger.
Let's stuff some mountain hawk and have fun doing this baby.
Football is here time for some Yale beat downs on our Ivy league breatheran.
BEAT LEHIGH and BEAT THEM WELL
Cheers from Jon Harris
Reno has no idea what hes doing plain and simple. hes has no confidence in his coaching and cant develop players.
4:49 You are a very ignorant person.You have no idea what you are saying.
4:49 Your on this account,As far as developng players.
What Reno is doing is building depth.This unit is bigger stronger and faster.No question,this a fact.
As for seniors, they don't care if they start.They just want to hit somebody.
Somebody said Champion and Vaughn
would quit. Hell no,You think everyone is like whitelaw.
Cheers Jon Harris
Is there anybody who does not think the defensive and offensive coordinators and position coaches do not have a significant input as to which players should play?
I think the defensive coaches have zero input on anything that happens in the program. Conlin might have some pull on offense.
Jon Harris
love your comments but please don't make a blanket comment like seniors don't care if they start. There are plenty that do care! no question this is a fact.
6:35 I will agree to disagree,most
don't care, they just want to participate. Yes some do,but once they get in it's fight the fight worry about starting next time.
These are my point of view
Cheers Jon Harris
Seriously? They care. None of the players who have put three to four years into playing Yale football just want to "participate" in practice and on the sidelines. Many of the freshmen who were touted as the better players when Reno first came in as coach are now either not on the depth chart AT ALL or are #2. If I were now a freshman starter or #2, I would temper my expectations. There's always another, better, stronger player, currently a senior in high school, who will be recruited with the promise of seeing the field. Maybe this makes a better team? We will see. I think it hurts the morale of the team. No consistency or having more experienced players lead the way. Good luck this year.
I feel bad for the nine quarterbacks. There will be two or more coming in next year. What a shame for some of these talented kids who would have had a chance to play at other top schools. Hopefully, at this level, football is secondary. They all work their butts off and 80 percent of these kids won't ever see the field barring injuries. I don't understand this recruiting.
Believe me, upperclassmen care. They don't commit to playing football at Yale if they don't care. And, there is no possible scenario that an incoming freshman is ready to play over an experienced player that has previously been deemed good enough to start. It just doesn't happen. Not to say that there could be a couple of freshmen that come in as superstars. But, that's the exception.
couldn't agree more, and the Reno's view, historically, does not understand that.
Whoa boys, calm your jets.
At this junction of the season.
1) it's along season,2)Injuries occur, John W if he did'nt quit he would have had the rest of the season to play.
I would be really surprised if anyone would quit at this junctier
of the season.
Nothing is in stone,Starting lineup could very well be changed by game day.
I really do not see the need to get up in arms about nothing.
Reno has been consistent. i have to say that.But relax, lets watch a game before you tell me what a bastard I am..
Jon Harris I can be found 2/3
up portal 19,Come by an talk to the old guy
We should definitely wait and see and support our team above all. As has been pointed out, however, in the case of Champion and Vaughan, we are not talking about seniors who have put in their time on JV and practice (good for them, because they make a team a team), but rather the 2 leading returning tacklers in the Ivy League and 1st team preseason All Ivy picks for 2014. They have obviously proven they can play. To 2:15, Champion, a DB, was indeed the leading tackler for Yale in both the H (9) and the P (12) games. The leading tackler for H? Chris Splinter (7), a DB. The leading tackler for P? Dorian Williams (12), a DB. How about the All Ivy linemen Zack Hodges (H) and Caraun Reid (P)? 3 tackles each. One less then our captain, Drew Palin. I haven't checked, but is Zack Hodges 2nd team?
So because Reno recruited kids they care but the upperclassman don't care? That's not true at all. Trust me kids care especially the upperclassmen who have been in the program. If they didn't care, they wouldn't play. It's non scholarship football.
10:47 Making tackles 20 yards down field or at the line of scrimmage are completely different things. Which would be the harder to do? Unfortunately, we give up a lot of yards, so that means all those down field tackles were a result of poor pass defense and inability of SS to press the line of scrimmage when defending the run. Honest mistake though, most spectators and media get caught up in the stats but not many understand how these stats came to be!
Two thoughts/observations: If you look at the initial two-deep depth chart from last season, you'll notice that over 50% of it was changed by the 4th game and a full 75% of it was changed by the end of the season. Secondly, I suspect Reno's seat is getting more than a tad warm and he needs to win at least 6 games this season. To that end, he will play those players that he feels give him the best chance to win. We don't know what goes on at practice each day, relative to effort, skill-level, etc. so let's watch the Lehigh game before we question his judgement any further....
I think the upperclassmen care about the football team. You have no reason to say they don't Jon.
Of course the seniors care. It's stupid and bogus to say they don't.They are tremendous guys in every way. There are people on this board trying to create division and problems. Not sayin there aren't always problems. But some trolls are trying to whip up stuff because they have a grudge. That's obvious. As to 7:46 saying Reno's seat is getting more than a tad warm, that's BS. People in the know know what he is doing, understand he is building, know his intensity and commitment, and know the players, know the discipline of the team- how the program is developing, how they care, what kind of men they are. Reno doesn't HAVE to win any number of games I am sure. The program has to show as a whole it is developing. Of course everyone is fired up and the guys and fans are hungry to win. But Rome wasn't built in a day. Notice Princeton. It takes time. Only the trolls are pressing for tests that include certain things which, if they do not happen, they can spit at Reno. Sorry about the bitterness but bitterness is not the feeling in the program among players or parents. And by the way 9:46 whatever the two deep all these people will PLAY and some immediately. This is an attempt to stir a pot to a boil when it is just simmering on the burner
It should not be lost in this discussion is whether Reno can really evaluate talent and decide who should play. His first major call was to start a freshman, Williams, over 3 upperclassman qbs. Last year, it was to start Roberts over Furman. We all know how that turned out - Roberts is big, fast and strong arm but made bad reads and decisions with the football. I would rather have a qb that makes the right reads and throws to the right guy bsed upon the defensive formation. There is reason to question Reno's decision to start his guys - the young guys. If I am correct, being big, fast, strong, and having a great arm is just one aspect of the game and evaluation process. If you listen to combine scouts, they care less about workouts in shorts and more about what they see in when a guy is in pads and on tape. You must make the right reads, especially the dbs in the secondary, and wideouts, and the QB must make the right reads on every play. Coaches spend most of the week putting in a game plan and trying to teach the players how to read defenses and offenses. They even give the players written tests. This has nothing to do with bench pressing and 40 times. It is about learning the game at the college level. We got beat many times deep last year with athletic kids who struggled learning schemes. And, every offense cooridinator in the league spent the week trying to exploit what the young guys dont know or understand. We cannot take decision making process out of the evaluation process, which Reno has done. Granted, watching tape and knowing what is happening on the field is no guaranty that guys will make plays. However, I would rather have as many guys as possible in the right position and making the right reads than relying on really fast guys trying to make up for mistakes with their speed. If a strong d-lineman makes the wrong read on a run play and get shielded, benching 400lbs will not help him get to the ball carrier. In my view, the upperclassman who have watched film for 3 or 4 years matters are just better prepared, and I don't believe the latest recruits are the best this league has ever seen such that they can play at a high level without experience.
Certainly many passionate and probably accurate statements have been made. I'll side with 7:46 to the extent that I'm willing to see how the Lehigh game plays out before second-guessing coaching decisions.
If you talked to Reno for more then 2 minutes, its pretty easy to figure out that he is completely full of bull. If hes talking, hes lying and his personal agendas need to be pushed aside in order for this team to be a contender. Just stating facts, its no secret hes not a good person. The junior/Senior class is hungry for the season and are motivated. To say they don't care like Jon Harris did, I know that is straight out of Reno's mouth.
They all care. They all want to play/start. Compare with last years roster - only four quit (whatever the reason). Reno does not seem to be driving them away. Maybe they believe in the team regardless of how disappointed they are with their role. Makes me respect them!
To all my detracters,I sometimes like to suger coat things.Yes people care if they start.
But if you don't are you gonna stop playing.have a tantrum,Nooo
your gonna go out and prove that you deserve to start.
So all you so called fans, hike up your skirts and some cheese ,because I'm tired of YOUR WHINING.
NOW LETS BEAT LEHIGH DAMIT
Sincerely Yours Jon Harris xox
Is there any chance that one of the non-troll posters who has played in the Bowl and can look beyond the statistics can pick where the late William Wallace '45 left off and provide us with game-by-game analyses of what really happened and what might be likely to happen going forward.
Maybe the trolls can take their bile and malice to Portal 32.
L et V
Not sure what changed from November to Now. In 9 months during the off season an all ivy league player gets benched? did he have a bad off season? Did he not go hard enough in the weight room?
All-star selections are often based on stats and not on actual performance and the people making the selections either have no clue or are too lazy to dig behind the numbers. Who is better, a RB who rushes for 500 yards behind the worst offensive line on the worst team in the league or one that rushes for 800 behind the best line on the best team? I can tell you that 100% of the time the one that rushed for 800 will make All Ivy. There are reasons behind the numbers people, open the old eyes!
Ouch Jon Harris Step down off your box for just 2 seconds say your sorry about your comment that it was taken out of context then step back up on the box and give us more of your entertaining comments. Cheers!
VERY much agree with 4:49 selection makes no sense, to often players that really belong on the all Ivy are never there.
Coach Reno has the two deep right to start the season. If anyone thinks otherwise then put up and state where he is wrong otherwise sit back and enjoy the game on Saturday.
4:54 I gave you guys hugs and kisses,does'nt that count.?
I'm not a politician,so thank you for the guidence.I'm truly sorry for the comment that I made.
I hope you can forgive me.
I would like piece of chedder though.
Now with being said
Can we please BEAT LEHIGH
Cheers Jon Harris
The reality is, champion and Vaughan will both play regardless of who starts, and I truly believe they will both be on the field when it matters. Both are very good players and Reno knows that. With regards to Roberts, let go of last year, he has been lights out all pre season. Keep in mind during the brown scrimmage Varga Randall Chism Carbery and Longinotti weren't on the field but three or four series if at all. This team is much improved from last fall as JH has pointed out in numerous posts. Is that going to translate to more wins? If Varga is healthy and we can create turnovers on D then absolutely yes.
Jon, no disrespect and I support the yale team 100 percent. But so many of these kids never get a chance to "prove themselves". The Reno recruits get most of the touches and most of the reps in practice. Some of these sideline kids are really good. I respect them for cheering on and believing in their team knowing if the "opportunity" was there, they would get the job done. A life lesson.
People, WHO (jr & sr) not on the 2 deep "should" be playing??? I don't see anyone else, just my opinion. I see the freshmen and sophomores better athletically and thus should be ahead. they are bigger and faster.
Certainly, a fair degree of emotional investment in this topic. Let's see how the Lehigh game unfolds before we second-guess Reno.
8:08 is spot on. Some of the upperclassmen were never given a chance to show what they can do, even in the scrimmage. They were discounted from the beginning. Props to them for hanging in. The original senior class is down to 18. The other half of the class saw the writing on the wall and decided it wasn't worth their time. The 18 fellows, many of whom see little to no playing time, continue to stick it out. They do everything that is asked of them, and work their butts off with no pay day. The positions should be theirs to lose, but that simply is not the case. These guys loved playing football and now anxiously count down the days until it's over. My heart goes out to you and your families for the disappointment this experience has been and I pray that you all have the bright futures you deserve.
So your telling me Cole Champion is not one of the 11 best players on Yale's defense this fall? if he cant start at safety, move him somewhere else.
8:48. If you attend the practices and the scrimmages, you would be able to tell us who these kids that are being looked over are. Three came to mind as soon as I saw your post but I will not publish any names. I am in total agreement with 8:08 and 11:53 and I have been to the scrimmages and a practice or two. Suffice it to say that certain positions require a football brain as opposed to football brawn in conjunction with speed, strength and athleticism. But good luck this Saturday to all those kids! Go bulldogs!!
we will agree to disagree then. in my opinion, the rest of the group should have gone to the NESCAC and probably would have had solid careers. either too slow or undersized. not ivy level. similar to all the guys who quit. again, just my opinion.
8:48
Underclassman 2 deep around the league:
Harvard 12 - 12 soph (1 starter)
Princeton 10 - 9 soph (4 starters) 1 freshman
Penn 5 - 5 soph (3 starters)
Brown 9 - 9 soph (3 starters)
Yale 22- 13 soph (10 starters) 9 freshman (2 starters)
This doesn't include special teams
Don't put to much faith in the two deep as you see it today. I agree that if the past is any indication it will be different for the Army game and the next and the next ETC...As far as all the crying over Champion no worries he will play. His first two years I believe he played FS this year he WAS moved and is now at SS a very large percentage of his tackles from FS position came in part from missed tackles at the line and very poor coverage by the corners and after watching the games over he was credited with tackles he didn't make. From SS he could be covering receivers from time to time in "man" blitzing and up at the line trying to make a tackle so from that position he will have a great opportunity to show what he can bring to the table. It is correct to say If you have not spent time at practices or been at the scrimmages to watch then you don't know maybe Champion is having a bit of a slow start and Reno put him at #2 just to "jump start" his battery because as I read through this blog there are A LOT of battery's that seem to have been jump started over Champion. He's a pretty good athlete so the best thing to do is wait and see what he does when he's on the field. It is what is folks. And as our good friend Jon Harris would say.....
NOW LET'S BEAT LEHIGH!!
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