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Varga selected by Calgary Stampeders in CFL Draft
The Calgary Stampeders selected Tyler Varga with their first pick of the third round (19th overall) in Tuesday's CFL Draft.
Varga's agent Joe Linta said last week Varga didn't have any interest in playing in the CFL right now. Varga went undrafted in the NFL Draft, but signed a three-year deal with the Indianapolis Colts. He's in mini-camp with the Colts now.
Varga's agent Joe Linta said last week Varga didn't have any interest in playing in the CFL right now. Varga went undrafted in the NFL Draft, but signed a three-year deal with the Indianapolis Colts. He's in mini-camp with the Colts now.
posted by Anonymous at
12:55 AM
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Congratulations on your many choices in life.
Go bulldogs
Absolutely, because you have truly earned every one of them!
I thought he would be the first pick according to the people on this blog?
Conjecture is a funny thing.?unfortunately your not.
Jon Harris
Varga fell in the CFL draft bc he signed a deal with the NFL's Colts,
Played no competition for 3 years.
9:22. It's almost difficult to overstate how stupid that comment is. His high consensus Canadian draft projections were made AFTER he played "no competition." So the fall has to be something after that, right? And of course 8:06 has the obvious answer.
The Ivy League is not the SEC??? So glad this SEC fan has graced this blog with her comments. Or maybe it's just an Ivy League student who hates athletes, aka a hateful bigot. Either way, go hang out on Harvard's blog
Thanks 11:47, except Harvard doesn't have an active blog, and neither does any other team in the Ivies - kinda begs a question about the 17 year olds who choose the marginal prestige of a Harvard degree over playing for a program that people actually give a sh*t about. I'll answer the question: they're cowards. And they feel bad about it. So they spend they're time fabricating malicious rumors about the Yale program on this blog. Again, they're cowards...
Varga has no speed. he looked fast in a league littered with defensive backs that run 5 flat in the 40.
8:48: tell the Colts and the Stampede, not us.
Idiot, I mean 8:48AM, you need a correction. Varga has better than average speed for a potential FB, which he is basically considered on that level. He also has very good change of direction.
In addition dummy, I mean 8:48AM. Varga was never revered for his linear speed in the Ivy League, however it was the combination off all things (his speed with his power, size, elusiveness, and change of direction) that made him such a force in the Ivy’s. He did more making DB’s miss and trucking them than running away from them. Mostly because there are not defensive back fields “littered with 5 flat 40’s”. Come back when you know what you are taking about. Which hopefully means goodbye forever.
Kid looked plenty fast in the Senior Bowl
In Varga's case, power > speed, which translates well to the FB position at the next level. Really going to miss watching him punish those Harvard MLBs and DBs. Boola Boola!
8:48, everyone at yale's pro day ran impressive 40's ranging from 4.4 to 4.6. you are foolish.
who ran a 4.4 at yale's pro day?
Nobody on Yale's roster runs a 4.4. Maybe in Emil Johnson time but not with real timers.
Yale has nobody that runs a 4.4. Not one kid.
Your late for the school bus let the grownups chat
4.4 is the IQ of some of the posters on here. Jealousy is a terribly destructive emotion. I would seek professional help!
Did Yale have a coach leave?
It is entirely within the realm of possibility that some undersized wideout on the Yale bench runs a 4.49. The conviction with which you deny that indicates that you have no idea what you're talking about. You can write "not one kid" over and over again, but you've clearly never played a down in anger above the DIII level, so you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Well put 4:42PM and right on the money. I am aware that there are a few guys that run 4.5 on the roster. If they are low 4.5 guys (which I’m sure that 7:33AM has no idea about) then I am confident that at least some of them have clocked a high 4.4 before as well. Maybe not consistently, but I’m sure a watch has seen them clock that.
As you mentioned I’m sure 7:33AM doesn’t have a clue about too many things let alone what the Yale roster has to offer. I believe team wide and throughout the Ivy’s we have above average speed. We showed that last year and will show it even more this year. Go bulldogs!!!
More change. Another coach left the staff.
Yale follower:
No Yale coach left relax. Larry Ciotti is taking an off the field role like I stated months ago. He will be special assistant to the head football coach. College football takes a toll, especially when you are in your 70's. Expect someone from the SEC in a quality control role to be joining the staff.
Go Elis!
Hmm joining late here... If the point of the first guy was that Yale does not have a lot guys in the two-deep running sub 4.5a, well that's a fair point, although not super relevant unless the goal is to unsine the stake program versus a handful of BCS schools, and not at all consistent with the emotionally charged "not one kid" comment, which, as others have pointed out, is probably off.
How hard can it be working for Yale football? 10 game season, it can't be any harder then working as a high school coach.
When the spring comes out in full force so do the COMPLETE IDIOTS. Thank you for revealing yourself 12:01 PM as a huge moron. Classic statement from a fool who has come as close as the front row of the stadium to ever being involved in football. If you even knew what even a HS football coach did you would be appalled at your own ignorance.
Who really is breaking 4.5 in the 40 that plays for Yale? Varga was fast and he ran a 4.7 at the combine.
Not Harris who was beat by five yards on the game winning touchdown at Harvard.
Harris out of high school I'm guessing ran in the 4.4-4.5 range. Two years in an ancient weight lifting program, he is not as fast and less explosive.
So what you are staying is that Harris has played for 2 years, on a team that has improved each year and challenged for the Ivy League title last year. But he has only gotten slower and worse because of the strength program? Hmmm…disgruntled ex-player maybe? Or a parent of a kid who was “misguided” within the program? Sounds like it. I love how ALL of the issues are tied (by some) to the staff or some part of this teams Yale football experience. Again, to all you naysayers. Wake up and deal with the facts people we were GOOD last year and may even be better this year. And yes, Reno and his staff ARE ALL responsible for the improvement…LIVE WITH IT. I am sure you will go back to wishing failure on team #143. Please…get over yourself.
This recruiting class has a legit 4.4 guy. WR from Ohio, Marcinik. Watch his film runs away from top Ohio HS DB's. He and Hines will be a tough tandem to handle in near future. Yale with Tre Moore coming in will be hard to match up with. I've followed Yale for 20 years and this class is best ever. Yale staff are getting top flight talent and will be fun to watch in upcoming seasons!
Tell me that the 315 lb Michael Johnson, Jr will not be whaling on 175 lb preppies this fall. That has to be a violation of the Geneva Convention.
What a stupid comment
We thought that about Friedline too. He didn't block many people.
Would not be suprised if at least two freshmen are starting on the OL by the end of the season. Salter at running back is going to be major contributor which is going to help Roberts in the passing game. I agree with some that our receiving core could be better this year.
5:55:
You might think differently (if you think at all) if your son were a 175 pounder facing M. Johnson< Jr.
Ok so here is my question. If Kyle Marcinick is so fast then why does his highlight film not feature him really running away from anyone and showing that speed? He didn’t beat anyone deep on any go routes against man to man coverage. There were actually 2 times that he got ran down in situations that kid with legit 4.4 speed should have run away from someone. From the film you could NOT tell that he runs a 4.4
4:27PM were you looking at the same film that we all have access to from this site to make that comment that he “runs away from top Ohio HS DB's”? Would you consider what you watched on that film Ohio HS’s top DB’s? If so, it shows you are not aware of top DB material. This is what OH DB’s at the highest level look like.
http://www.cleanvideosearch.com/media/action/yt/watch?v=q-ztJZDpnKo&edufilter=UC1jGC0Y8zYL268WhAdj8MCw
Not what is shown on that highlight tape. Educate yourself. With all due respect to Kyle Marcinick, he is not running away from the likes of that. I just hope he is “Ivy league fast”.
And this was an All-American game. Kyle Marcinick is not that type of fast, not from the film I just watched. That 4.4 is probably a bit generous. One for the naysayers.
Just stop with 40 yard time stupidity. Look at avg per run or avg per catch and you will find out quickly that 99% of the plays are less than 10 yards so who cares about how fast the 40 is. This is football not track. Be quick in a small space and you will be successful. the only guys that run a fast 40 are track guys and unfortunately those guys don't usually make for good football players because of their girly physical stature!
"40 time stupidity". This is why still to this day it is one of the most used measuring sticks in the world of football. Don't be mad at the watch and the institution. No, 40 times does not mean everything. But to say "be quick in a small space and you will be successful" only works in bad HS football. Speed kills, and that is a fact.
2:23 You peaked my curiosity so I watched for myself. Did you really watch this kids film?? He blows by everyone who was supposed to be covering him. He's behind the entire secondary whenever he went deep! Caught from behind?? Offer a single example when you claimed he was caught from behind. Beginning of video states 21 TDs, 59 catches and 1250 yards. Thats an average of 20 yds per catch and film supports that. I also looked up who Coffman HS was in Ohio. They are in the largest school (D1)division in state of Ohio and play the biggest schools in Ohio. I'm a PA guy but have to admit this kid looks really fast.
2:23 times dictate to remain silent an appear that you are intelegent,Than to open one's mouth an erase all doubt...
Do you all not follow Yale as much as it seems? Chris Smith ran a 4.46 at Yale's Pro Day and was in camp with the Patriots. Cook ran a 4.58 and was in camp with the Bucs. Grant Wallace ran a 4.6. To say that Varga was the fast one might be a bit foolish based on these results. Do your research and have some respect for the men of Yale that work hard to make you proud.
5:39... Well Said... AMEN
Chris Smith was not on the team last year.
Lucky for the rest of the Ivy League
Yale would have BEATEN everybody
If Kyle Juszczky was still playing for Harvard they would be tough to beat. But they only give you 4 years of college so that's a moron statement about smith. Hes long gone and you lost to H.
Looks like Reno went with cupcakes in his out of conference this year.
2:43 PM I see you are one of the dummies that is caught up in the 40 hype. The only people that use that as a measuring stick are the ones that have no clue of what it really takes to play out on the field. If it takes 50 run attempts to bust one long run I don't think I would be focusing too much on practicing my 40.
4:50PM, you probably have never played a down of football in your life. Simpleminded spectator.
Kyle Juzcyk was soft. Good athlete, not physically imposing as a blocker.
Ok 1:45 you win I'll bite. When was the last time your team played a BCS team. That's right, never. Not one time. Army will play Yale again. And look for others to do the same. In the meantime, there's a scholarship program on again, just like Cal Poly and West Point
If you took the 10 yard split of a 4.6-4.7 runner vs a 4.4 runner. The 4.4 runner would be faster. What was varga's 10 yard split?
4:50PM, let me to educate you a little bit on the 40. Is 40 time the “end all be all” of test measurements in football, no. Do NFL scouts get every single pick that they make correct in draft projections, of course not. But year after year in the NFL the 40 yard dash moves athletes from round to round and draft position to draft position in the draft. It is the biggest deciding factor in millions of dollars in contact negations and pick placement for numerous players. Furthermore in many instances this is from one specific episode of running 40’s (at the combine or in a pro day) rather than a “body of work” in having many (more than 4) different opportunities. Again, are there other important measurebles, of course. However to say that “The only people that use that as a measuring stick are the ones that have no clue of what it really takes to play out on the field” is absolutely asinine. Say and think whatever you want, the 40 yard dash reinforces players value prior to making it into the NFL more than their actual play does in many different instances. An impressive 40 yard dash time will put any player in a “discussion” or “conversation” among football coaches on any level. This is a fact and you are clearly the real dummy.
12:22 I see that you have no ability to think logically. The media probably decides how you cut your hair, clothes you ware and your understanding of athletic performance. I would expect that a Yale student or alum would have more independent thinking than that (but maybe you are not from Yale?)The only thing you see on sports highlights is exactly that. The other 99% of the event is not a highlight, it's reality my friend. Driving is for show and putting is for dough! There are thousands of track stars that run sub 4.5 forty times but I don't see them playing in the NFL and most that have tried have been a dismal failure.
If the 40 yard dash is not reality. How do you go about measuring a person's speed? I'd love to hear your opinion.
Exactly 9:20PM. You also said a bunch of nothing 8:00PM. Think logically? Your response seems like you didn't even understand my post. Clearly football skills matter, but so does speed…obviously. You clearly are only a spectator and have no idea how fast the men you watch playing football each week (on any level for that matter) are actually moving. And if we are talking about those who post being "Yale educated" you certainly are not. "Clothes you ware". Please have someone proofread your next post.
10:06 ... You clearly do not understand the difference between track speed and football speed. The 40 time is of small relevance to football speed. Stop watching highlights and actually watch the game. 99% of the plays happen within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. This clearly means that 99% of the time your 40 speed is absolutely irrelevant! Quickness and burst is 99% of the game. Forty time is all media hype for the uneducated and gullible spectator. Unfortunately, that includes most fans, media and even some coaches.
For all this yammer about 40 times, does anyone have updates on how Smith, Cook and Varga are performing/performed with their respective clubs?
It's been a long time since that many former Yale guys got legitimate shots in one year.
2:23PM, I agree that we could use a new subject. However no one is really making any other points, so I'll stay on this one.
11:34AM. You are definitely strong willed, and unfortunately ignorant to all that is important.. Most people who know sport know that there is obviously a difference between track speed and football speed. This is why there are some people in the NFL who are successful that have not tested well in the 40. However, if you understood sport at all, you would understand that having a fast 40 time is definitely an advantage and proves that you definitely have the capability to run away from people on the football field. This is what I have been trying to tell you all along. Not this it is the most important thing, but it definitely does have high importance.
Most of the people that you watch RUN AWAY from people on football fields, defy proper tacking angles (are you even aware of this particular vernacular?), and make plays while covered or schemed correctly IS a result of their SPEED, not their quickness in 10 to 20 yards”. That quickness you talk about gives people space and gets first downs, this is true. The SPEED breaks long plays and allows people to RUN AWAY FROM PEOPLE. It is every easy to understand. While you may see people with average 40 times makes others miss on fields and make plays. You readily see them get caught at the end of great plays and you rarely see them “break away” from people (hence the term “breakaway speed”).
On the 40 runway, or on the track, fast is FAST. Maybe you were one of those slow kids in the playground that made plays with your “quickness” in small areas. Don’t worry, they have worth as well. Please answer this. If “Forty time is all media hype for the uneducated and gullible spectator. Unfortunately, that includes most fans, media and even some coaches”, then why is it still held in such high regard with many NFL people up and down the line? Do they “clearly not know the difference” as well? Do you get it now?
I know Varga signed a deal. Did Smith and Cook make it past rookie camp? Are they even still practicing with these teams?
2:48 You will never get it as long as you keep watching the highlights only. The things you see there are statistically rare. Reality is 4 and 5 yard plays.
Most of the NFL coaching staffs are made up of ex-players. Most did not even graduate. Most media types have never done anything athletic their whole life. That should tell you everything you need to know. The teams with smarter staffs are continually in the top third of the league. the rest draft guys based on their 40 time.
The first thing Yale does with the kids before camp is test 40 time. Should they not do that?
Safeties in the NFL play 18-21 yards deep and cover a massive amount of space almost every pass play. Just because the "play" doesn't go for 40 yards doesn't mean both the d backs and wide receiver don't cover a lot of ground. It's better to be fast then slow, of course other things matter too.
40 Conversation: I've been watching highlight video on Yale recruits for several years '15 recruits Hines and Marcinick could be the most exciting tandem of WR's Yale has ever had. Maybe ever! They both play fast and have track speed. They along with many of the current talented WR's at Yale will be a stiff challenge for any Ivy League team to match up against. Incoming QB Tre Moore is also the total package. Keep up the good work Reno and staff!
5:56PM, Oh I get it, and now I think you more intelligently attempted to make you point with your last post as well.
Here is mine. Speed matters. 40 time measures speed. Strategy, short plays, coaching decisions, you name it. Speed is not the only thing, nor is it the most important thing. Yet as it is consistently proven, and 9:31PM put it so eloquently, it is better to be fast than slow.
I don't think the argument was fast vs slow? More like football fast vs track crazy. The 40 is a standard measure because quite frankly measuring someones inseam is just not quite as exciting or newsworthy. I may even concede some validity in testing a bit longer range speed for DB and WR but to test the rest is just silliness. Same thing goes for testing the 225lb bench press. When is the last time you saw someone perform that movement on a football field? But its still tested and made a big deal out of.
Linemen bench press each other off of each other all game long. In the trenches it is all about getting your hands on someone’s chest and extending them off of you to get control and vision. That movement is done over and over again throughout a football game.
As far as the 40 goes lineman rarely (if ever) run farther than 40 yards a clip in any football game. So the 40 for them is just a matter of how fast you can (when it rarely happens) run a distance around 40 yards and make a big block or a big tackle. Or for offensive lineman, if a play takes longer to develop and you need them to make a block on the second or 3rd level of the defense, how long it will take them to get there. This is why there is not as much emphasis put on lineman’s times.
The 40 for skill players just measures how fast you can get to top end speed. The faster you can do that definitely the better. I agree it is not fully about fast versus slow, however I will agree with 9:26 am in that the faster you are the better off you are on a football field.
The blocking technique is actually an incline press movement, not bench press. Why are we testing bench press? Because that is what has been done since the days of the leather helmets.
The only remaining question is whether we can get to 100 posts with this learned discussion.
having a single malt scotch and a connecticut leaf cigar muniemaker ahh
If there is anyone on this learned board who is not exicited about the prospects of our team for the coming year than I suggest your drink of choice should be hemlock.
Since I was railroaded on the first attempt, I will do my part to help us reach 100 points. Can anyone provide any intel on our NFL prospects from this spring?
Chris, any news from these guys?
So whats the thought process on the SAT score? Does it matter or is it like the 40 yard dash? Should Yale look away from the SAT?
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